{"id":10924,"date":"2017-10-30T08:00:31","date_gmt":"2017-10-30T12:00:31","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/?p=10924"},"modified":"2017-10-29T17:13:56","modified_gmt":"2017-10-29T21:13:56","slug":"mark-mckenna-combat-jacks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/mark-mckenna-combat-jacks\/","title":{"rendered":"Mark McKenna on the EC-style Horror of &#8216;Combat Jacks&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"8771\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/interview-victoria-price\/cd-gen-interviews\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/CD-Gen-Interviews.jpg?fit=830%2C120&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"830,120\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Cemetery Dance Interviews\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/CD-Gen-Interviews.jpg?fit=830%2C120&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-8771\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/CD-Gen-Interviews.jpg?resize=830%2C120&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"830\" height=\"120\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/CD-Gen-Interviews.jpg?w=830&amp;ssl=1 830w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/CD-Gen-Interviews.jpg?resize=350%2C51&amp;ssl=1 350w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/CD-Gen-Interviews.jpg?resize=768%2C111&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"10927\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/mark-mckenna-combat-jacks\/combatjackscover1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/combatjackscover1.jpg?fit=225%2C342&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"225,342\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"combatjackscover1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/combatjackscover1.jpg?fit=225%2C342&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignright wp-image-10927\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/combatjackscover1.jpg?resize=162%2C246&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"162\" height=\"246\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/www.markmckennaart.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mark McKenna<\/a>\u00a0got his professional start in the graphic novel world in the mid-&#8217;80s and has since worked on almost 600 comics. Drawing and inking for DC and Marvel kept him in the world of household-name superheroes, but McKenna has also published creator-owned horror comics for both adults and children. With Halloween just around the corner, Cemetery Dance caught up with McKenna to talk about his creations, how he approaches horror comics, and how he was influenced by early horror tales from EC.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>(Interview conducted by\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DanicaDavidson\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Danica Davidson<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><strong>CEMETERY DANCE: How did the style of EC <em>Weird Science Fantasy <\/em>and <em>Vault of Horror <\/em>influence your comic <em>Combat Jacks<\/em>? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>MARK MCKENNA: I was a big fan of the old <em>Vault of Horror<\/em>, <em>Tales from the Crypt <\/em>stuff. I have the slip-case hardcover collections that Russ Cochran did. A lot of the guys like Wally Wood and (Frank) Frazetta cut their teeth on this horror stuff back then. I always had a great love for that. When I came up with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.combatjacks.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Combat Jacks<\/em><\/a>, it was actually like me offering homage to that genre.<\/p>\n<p>It really originated from my son and me, around Halloween 2012, thinking about how there weren\u2019t enough good pumpkin monsters. Jack o\u2019Lanterns are supposed to be scary, but <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=PXlcm1el1D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Pumpkinhead <\/em><\/a>really wasn\u2019t a pumpkin, it was a monster. So I came up with the concept of an alien planet being knocked into our solar system by an asteroid on the other side of the sun. IDW Comic\u2019s Chief Creative Officer and Editor-in-Chief Chris Ryall told me back in 2012 if I was to do this as a four-issue miniseries, he would then collect it for IDW.<\/p>\n<p>When I originally started, it was going to be a one-and-done sort of thing, a 32 or 34 page book. But then I came up with a concept that the pumpkins on Earth are not really our pumpkins, they\u2019re actually an alien race. In issue three I go back to Sleepy Hollow in the 1700s. Instead of the Headless Horseman, it\u2019s actually an alien pumpkin. I take it back even further in<em> Combat Jacks <\/em>#4 to prehistoric ages where our dinosaurs were not killed by an Ice Age or an asteroid but by alien Jack O\u2019Lanterns. You have to go bigger when you do a miniseries; you have to make more interesting dilemmas for the heroes to conquer.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Did you grow up reading other horror comics? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>You know, I was not a horror fan growing up, with the exception of the Universal Monsters. My father tried to take me to see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=FR8yBW0xago\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein <\/em><\/a>when I was about six or seven years old, but it wasn\u2019t playing at the theater and he ended up taking me to a Hammer horror movie. I just remember this guy with a big zipper scar on his head, and Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee, a lot of blood. I remember my father looking over at me and saying, \u201cYou know this is make-believe, right?\u201d I had nightmares for weeks after that.<\/p>\n<p>Then, I miraculously caught pneumonia one year, probably in my thirties, and I started watching horror movies. I got caught up in it and really enjoyed them. I think about the old stuff, like <em>It Came from Beyond the Stars <\/em>or the original <em>Thing <\/em>movies, and I was fascinated with those.<\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"10930\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/mark-mckenna-combat-jacks\/combatjacks1-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/combatjacks1-1.jpg?fit=800%2C650&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"800,650\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"combatjacks1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/combatjacks1-1.jpg?fit=800%2C650&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-10930 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/combatjacks1-1.jpg?resize=800%2C650&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"650\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/combatjacks1-1.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/combatjacks1-1.jpg?resize=350%2C284&amp;ssl=1 350w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/combatjacks1-1.jpg?resize=768%2C624&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>What can you tell us about your comic <em>The Tomb of Baalberith<\/em>?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>The Tomb of Baalberith<\/em> is four short connected stories. I head this studio called <a href=\"http:\/\/www.virtualinksinc.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Virtual Inks Inc<\/a>\u00a0where we\u2019re all working in our own studios but we\u2019re connected by the internet. I came up with the concept of the book and I looked up demon names and the name of Baalberith just called out to me. In the beginning of the book, he\u2019s in suspended animation and his demonic jester sidekick releases three monsters on humanity to collect body parts. When the monsters collect these things, they\u2019re feeding Baalberith, and at the end of the book he is reanimated. My hope is that if we do <em>Baalberith <\/em>as a one-shot, we get a sense of what characters work well, who gravitated to what characters, and maybe continue doing another book down the road.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How does your drawing style change for different genres? Do you have any advice for artists wanting to draw in the horror genre? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I think it\u2019s more about black and white versus color. When you do black and white, you can add more atmosphere. I try to make it a little bit more gritty. I was told by an editor earlier, when I was trying out for a <em>Sandman <\/em>series back at DC, that I was too neat, too clean, to be doing a horror series then. I had spent years refining my lining and in horror you sometimes want to be the opposite of that.<\/p>\n<p>I also did a <em>Resident Evil <\/em>story in a magazine and a couple Vampirella pieces that were commissioned. I always thought of myself as wanting to do a black and white horror book.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What is easier about doing horror in comics form and what is more difficult?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"10931\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/mark-mckenna-combat-jacks\/combatjackscover2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/combatjackscover2.jpg?fit=225%2C342&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"225,342\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"combatjackscover2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/combatjackscover2.jpg?fit=225%2C342&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-10931\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/10\/combatjackscover2.jpg?resize=225%2C342&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"225\" height=\"342\" \/>Originality is a big trick to it. Everything lends off something else. When I did <em>Combat Jacks<\/em>, I was thinking about what reasons Earth would go to inhabit another planet, but they\u2019ve all been done before.<\/p>\n<p>Also, a lot of horror is done tongue-in-cheek. It\u2019s done for shock value. You can\u2019t really do that so much in a comic book as you can with a really loud soundtrack at the moment the guy thumps in around the corner. It\u2019s the trick that way, to get the scare across. I\u2019m not a big blood-and-guts guy when I watch horror movies, either; I prefer monsters, vampires, zombies. For me, this was a real stretch from doing <em>Iron Man <\/em>and <em>The Punisher <\/em>and <em>Spider-Man<\/em> for thirty years.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You also have a Halloween-centered comic aimed for kids, right? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yes. I do a children\u2019s book series called <a href=\"http:\/\/bananatail.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Banana Tail <\/em><\/a>and in 2003 I did the original storybook about a monkey who thinks he\u2019s turning into a banana because he ate so many bananas as a kid. Then I did an activity book called <em>Banana Tail Tales and Activities <\/em>in 2005. Image Comics got hold of the property and we did <em>Banana Tail\u2019s Colorful Adventure<\/em>. I thought about how it would be great if kids could grow older and still be entertained with Banana Tail. So I created this Halloween-themed comic book called the <em>Boonana Tail Halloween Special<\/em>, and it\u2019s 32 pages of short, cute Halloween stories. I\u2019d like to do another holiday themed book. But I am going to continue to do Banana Tail books, and I\u2019m currently working on a new book, <em>Banana Tail and the Checkerboard Jungle<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><em>Baalberith<\/em>\u00a0 was just released on ComiXology (a site where you can download comics) and then<em> Combat Jacks <\/em>#4 is released (on ComiXology) on the 25<sup>th<\/sup>. I\u2019m probably going to bundle them together, make a package deal with them. I might even just do \u201cMark McKenna\u2019s Halloween Bundle\u201d and include <em>Baalberith<\/em>, the four issues of <em>Combat Jacks <\/em>and maybe even the kid\u2019s book for parents who want something for their children. It\u2019s nice to have horror work to go along with my superhero work.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Danica Davidson is the author of adventure novels for kids that take place as if Minecraft is real. Her first series (<\/strong><\/em><strong>Escape from the Overworld<\/strong><strong>, Attack on the Oveworld, The Rise of Herobrine, Down into the Nether, The Armies of Herobrine <em>and <\/em><\/strong><strong>Battle with the Wither<\/strong><em><strong>) is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Unofficial-Overworld-Adventure-Box-Set\/dp\/1510715339\/ref=la_B00R0PW52E_1_2?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1508792298&amp;sr=1-2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">available as a box set<\/a> <span class=\"aBn\" tabindex=\"0\" data-term=\"goog_402386218\"><span class=\"aQJ\">November 7<\/span><\/span>, and the first book in the spinoff series, <\/strong><\/em><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Adventure-Against-Endermen-Unofficial-Overworld\/dp\/1510727027\/ref=la_B00R0PW52E_1_9?s=books&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1508792298&amp;sr=1-9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Adventure Against the Endermen<\/a><\/strong><em><strong>, comes out the same day.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mark McKenna\u00a0got his professional start in the graphic novel world in the mid-&#8217;80s and has since worked on almost 600 comics. Drawing and inking for DC and Marvel kept him in the world of household-name superheroes, but McKenna has also published creator-owned horror comics for both adults and children. With Halloween just around the corner, &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/mark-mckenna-combat-jacks\/\" class=\"more-link button bg-gold white\">Continue Reading!<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Mark McKenna on the EC-style Horror of &#8216;Combat 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