{"id":15704,"date":"2021-07-02T07:01:51","date_gmt":"2021-07-02T11:01:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/?p=15704"},"modified":"2021-07-07T22:01:28","modified_gmt":"2021-07-08T02:01:28","slug":"inteview-joe-lansdale-hansi-oppenheimer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/inteview-joe-lansdale-hansi-oppenheimer\/","title":{"rendered":"All Hail the Popcorn King&#8230;.and Queen! An Interview with Joe R. Lansdale and Hansi Oppenheimer"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"8771\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/interview-victoria-price\/cd-gen-interviews\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/CD-Gen-Interviews.jpg?fit=830%2C120&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"830,120\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Cemetery Dance Interviews\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/CD-Gen-Interviews.jpg?fit=830%2C120&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-8771\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/CD-Gen-Interviews.jpg?resize=830%2C120&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"banner graphic that says Cemetery Dance Interviews\" width=\"830\" height=\"120\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/CD-Gen-Interviews.jpg?w=830&amp;ssl=1 830w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/CD-Gen-Interviews.jpg?resize=350%2C51&amp;ssl=1 350w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/10\/CD-Gen-Interviews.jpg?resize=768%2C111&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15706\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/inteview-joe-lansdale-hansi-oppenheimer\/popcornking_poster\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_poster.jpg?fit=615%2C916&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"615,916\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"popcornking_poster\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_poster.jpg?fit=615%2C916&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-15706\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_poster.jpg?resize=235%2C350&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"poster for All Hail the Popcorn King\" width=\"235\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_poster.jpg?resize=235%2C350&amp;ssl=1 235w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_poster.jpg?w=615&amp;ssl=1 615w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 235px) 85vw, 235px\" \/>After decades of cranking out high-caliber, genre-smashing literature, and with a badass martial arts pedigree to boot, it\u2019s remarkable that no one tackled a documentary about East Texas\u2019 reigning champion of mojo storytelling, Joe R. Lansdale. Along came intrepid New York City filmmaker Hansi Oppenheimer, a self-described <em>fangrrrl<\/em> who grabbed her camera and jetted to the source, joining Lansdale in his hometown Nacogdoches, Texas, to film <em>All Hail the Popcorn King<\/em>. It was a journey &#8212; what Lansdale\u2019s rabid fans might call a pilgrimage &#8212; to East Texas, the site where the local color echoes through Lansdale\u2019s masterful tales of blue-collar anti-heroes, two-bit criminals, and voracious monsters lurking in raucous honky-tonks, musty movie houses, and swampy bottom lands frequented by their fictionalized counterparts. Through her lens, Oppenheimer grants us an intimate visit with our favorite raconteur, inviting us into the oldest town in Texas, and the place Lansdale calls home.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The titular Popcorn King, of course, refers to the brutal demagogue who presides over his popular work <em>The Drive-In<\/em>, still one of Lansdale\u2019s most outrageous tales. It also refers to a special popcorn blend, concocted by Landale\u2019s wife Karen, that sent the author to bed with bizarre dreams and a stomachache, but whose hallucinatory effects helped conjure his earliest literary visions. Lansdale shares a cornucopia of anecdotes and insights on these topics and more, showing the breadth of his interest from classic literature to music history to the martial arts, while displaying a tireless dedication to his craft. Oppenheimer\u2019s artsy guerilla-style technique suits the Lansdale story well, and their work ethic, mutual love of comics, and free-wheeling approach blend to help Oppenheimer overcome a myriad of challenges working on a shoestring budget during a pandemic.<\/p>\n<p>At the time of writing this article, Oppenheimer is self-distributing limited-edition DVDs (with 90 minutes of additional interviews and outtakes) on her website (<a href=\"http:\/\/squeeprojects.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">squeeprojects.com<\/a>). Cemetery Dance spoke with the director and her subject about guerilla filmmaking, B-movies, and the Texas-sized affection that radiates from the screen.<\/p>\n<p>(Interview conducted by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.twitter.com\/ChrisDIYDrivein\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Chris Hallock<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><em>Portions of this interview have been edited for size constraints.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>CEMETERY DANCE: A lot of fans would agree that it\u2019s a shame Joe R. Lansdale isn\u2019t more of a household name. How did being a fan of his work shape the way you approached the project, especially knowing that this might be an introduction to those who may be unfamiliar with his work?<\/strong><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_15707\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-15707\" style=\"width: 150px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15707\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/inteview-joe-lansdale-hansi-oppenheimer\/hansioppenheimer\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/hansioppenheimer.jpg?fit=400%2C400&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"400,400\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"hansioppenheimer\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Hansi Oppenheimer&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/hansioppenheimer.jpg?fit=400%2C400&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-15707\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/hansioppenheimer.jpg?resize=150%2C150&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"photo of filmmaker Hansi Oppenheimer\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/hansioppenheimer.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/hansioppenheimer.jpg?resize=350%2C350&amp;ssl=1 350w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/hansioppenheimer.jpg?w=400&amp;ssl=1 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 85vw, 150px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-15707\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hansi Oppenheimer<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>HANSI OPPENHEIMER: Yeah, that still shocks me; I can\u2019t imagine people not knowing his work. I mean [the documentary] has helped a lot of people. I did it because I wanted to celebrate Joe, that\u2019s what it is. If it turns more people on to him, that\u2019s great. He doesn\u2019t need my help with that. It\u2019s just a matter of getting his name out there to people who might not have heard of him. That\u2019s great, it\u2019s been really rewarding. They\u2019re all telling me about all the books they\u2019ve read.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What was your personal introduction to Joe\u2019s work? What was the first book of his that made you say, &#8220;He\u2019s got me&#8221;?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>HO: I think it was in <em>Silver Screams<\/em>. It\u2019s so long ago, it\u2019s the &#8217;80s. God, trying to remember anything from the &#8217;80s is a little blurry. I started reading his work really early on, all the way through. I\u2019ve always been a reader of his. The opportunity for me to be in Texas, for him to be available, everything just kinda lined up really nicely.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Joe, you\u2019re already immortalized through your work, and you seem like a person who doesn\u2019t really care about that sort of thing. What made you decide that this was the right time to do a documentary? Has anyone else approached you to do a documentary project? I\u2019m surprised there wasn\u2019t one already in the works.<\/strong><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_15708\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-15708\" style=\"width: 150px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15708\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/inteview-joe-lansdale-hansi-oppenheimer\/joelansdale\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/joelansdale.jpg?fit=500%2C700&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,700\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"joelansdale\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Author Joe R. Lansdale&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/joelansdale.jpg?fit=500%2C700&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-15708\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/joelansdale.jpg?resize=150%2C150&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"photo of author Joe Lansdale\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/joelansdale.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/joelansdale.jpg?zoom=2&amp;resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/joelansdale.jpg?zoom=3&amp;resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 450w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 85vw, 150px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-15708\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Author Joe R. Lansdale<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>JOE LANSDALE: Yeah, I actually had been approached about it before, and about memoirs and stuff like that, but I just didn\u2019t feel that excited about it. I think getting older, and looking back at what you\u2019ve done, you can at least appreciate that you\u2019ve been around, that you\u2019ve done some things. Hansi had such a good approach to it, and it was the first time I\u2019d heard anything I thought I really wanted to do. I kind of liked the sort of &#8212; this maybe seems like it\u2019s not giving it its due &#8212; but that sort of fly-by-the-seat of your pants approach. But I think that was a good approach. It\u2019s not too unlike the way I write, so I enjoyed that. And I think that we could have very personal conversations, and it didn\u2019t seem like it was so planned, and it felt more natural. For me, that was the appeal, cause I sorta thought that\u2019s what she was gonna do from having spoken with her. I was certainly convinced when she came to do it, and it went well.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/W9S1XtOPqhg\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>Hansi, you describe your style as low-fi artsy, which seems to be the aesthetic Joe responds to. Can you tell me how you arrived at that aesthetic for the film, particularly those great choices with the comic book style illustrations and other graphic art that appears throughout the film?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>HO: I was really just trying to be as creative as I could on an extremely limited budget; I financed this. There was a grant donated, but basically I financed this on my credit cards. It\u2019s been a struggle trying to see this through to distribution. Distribution is really a whole other set of things. I\u2019m really grateful to have the Lansdales in my life. They know how the business is, and there\u2019s stuff that, while working on this, that they taught me. It was kinda like a masterclass. But I was also fan-girling over Joe Lansdale &#8212; and his work and his life &#8212; cause he\u2019s just a fascinating person, and he\u2019s such a good person; I just wanted to celebrate him.<\/p>\n<p>JL: Well, thank you.<\/p>\n<p>HO: So I tried to make the film in the style in which I saw him and his work.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Yeah, I think that definitely comes across. I was wondering, how much of this did you end up having to work on through the pandemic?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>HO: Yeah, we did. We had some issues. We had to get a couple of new editors in during the pandemic. You know how that goes, that\u2019s always really complicated for a new editor to come in and look at something that\u2019s already assembled. For the DVD, we did like 33 extras, and they needed to be edited. It was a long and exhausting process. I\u2019m happy to say I did make the DVD. The DVD is available on my website (<a href=\"http:\/\/squeeprojects.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">squeeprojects.com<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p><strong>It\u2019s quite an accomplishment. Congratulations. I can\u2019t imagine how much stress it is on top of just trying to do this during normal times. It\u2019s really impressive to me.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>HO: Thank you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You got to travel to Nacogdoches. To me and other Joe Lansdale fans, that\u2019s like a pilgrimage. What was it like visiting some of those locations that informed Joe\u2019s work, and even appeared in Joe\u2019s work, maybe not exactly how they are in real life? How was that for you as a fan?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>HO: It\u2019s interesting because I just followed Joe\u2019s lead. Joe showed me the things that were important to him. So, it\u2019s Joe\u2019s tour. There were particular places &#8212; I did want a shot here, this shot &#8212; but for the most part, Joe drove [laughs]. That\u2019s why it\u2019s personal to him. You can feel it when you can see it, I think. Joe, did I get it?<\/p>\n<p>JL: Yeah, I think so. It\u2019s very personal to me. I didn\u2019t want to interrupt there, I wanted to let you go on what you were saying, but to me, I think it\u2019s what I was saying earlier, that I felt it had a very natural feel. It covered the stuff that I was interested in. I think it had that sort of mixed genre feel that my mind has; that my writing has; that my interests have; and including some animation. It kinda covered a lot more than just the drive-in, although that was kind of the catalyst for a lot of the stuff, was the drive-in; a drive-in-like film. When I used to go to the drive-in, they always had the features, and a lot of times they were real low-budget features. Sometimes they were low-budget, but great. It had that feel, and it made me feel that it was about me, and not just somebody doing something with me. I think there\u2019s a difference in it being about me and it being with me. Of course, I was flattered, it was very nice, but I think the thing that appealed to me most was just that Hansi was able to do it. I think it\u2019s a big step for her to go on some huge elevator rides. I was happy for that. It was a little shocking to me sometimes to hear what other people had to say because I had no idea. I knew a lot of people &#8212; we liked each other &#8211; &#8211;that was moving, it really was.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Just to touch a little more on that, is it fair to say that a documentary about you and your life pretty much had to be about East Texas itself?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>JL: Had to be. I have some interests outside of East Texas, and I\u2019ve written things outside of East Texas, but nearly everything I\u2019ve written is in East Texas, and everything I have written, even if it is not, is informed by it. It\u2019s how you see life. You look through a prism. Some people would come here and they\u2019d go, &#8220;Hell, there ain\u2019t nothing here.&#8221; They might be right, but to me, there\u2019s a lot here. It\u2019s just not the sort of thing you\u2019re gonna sightsee in fifteen minutes. It\u2019s more the people, the characters and how they are.<\/p>\n<p>HO: We did discuss that before I came to Nacogdoches. I looked at a documentary on Robert Johnson, <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/E1cIgRy7hUE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Devil at the Crossroads<\/em><\/a>. It\u2019s 45 minutes, but, of course, there\u2019s one photo of him. There\u2019s no footage or anything. They just did it around the place he was from. I talked to Joe about that, I asked him, &#8220;Do you want to try something like that?&#8221; Because that made sense to me. If not for that, I might not have gone to Nacogdoches.<\/p>\n<p>JL: I agree. I saw that documentary. Also, I think I saw some animation in that documentary, if I remember right. That was somewhat reminiscent of the little bits we did. I really liked that, and also, I\u2019m a big fan of animation. I\u2019ve written for animation, so it was nice to have that element inside the documentary.<\/p>\n<p><strong>It was fitting, the imagery that you chose; it fit the scope.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>HO: I\u2019ve been reading the guy for years, I can\u2019t count anymore. But yeah, I had a good sense of who he is.<\/p>\n<p>JL: It was fun to do because I didn\u2019t think of it as being a documentary. I\u2019m not camera shy either, so I don\u2019t get bothered by a camera. Because it doesn\u2019t seem like a camera to me. I just feel like I\u2019m talking to somebody, and Hansi makes that real because she was somebody I had not met until she came to Nacogdoches. We talked, and I did the little piece for the Joe Bob [Briggs] documentary she did. We just fell in love with her.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hansi, the film ends up being a really sweet portrait of this loving and supportive family. Were you familiar with the other members of the Lansdale family before you set out on the project?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>HO: There is no Joe without the other members of the family [laughs]. They\u2019re a really tight bunch. I got to know Karen, Kasey, and Keith, Nicky, and Pamela. They were just lovely, they couldn\u2019t have been more helpful or sweet. They\u2019re just a wonderful family.<\/p>\n<p>JL: I think the director Jim Mickle said the Lansdales travel in packs.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hansi, the film is pretty short, but I feel it hits most of the highlights. I wasn\u2019t left feeling wanting. Did you intend for it to be longer initially? Was there much that you cut out of the final version? Did you get the vision you wanted for the most part?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>HO: Well, on the DVD there\u2019s 90 minutes of interviews and outtakes, so there\u2019s more with them. There\u2019s extras that I couldn\u2019t fit in. I had planned to make a short film, tops 45 minutes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>As a fan, it totally worked for me. I\u2019ve also read reviews where the reviewer wasn\u2019t familiar with Joe, but said it made them want to go out and read Joe\u2019s work. It\u2019s a success on two different levels.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>JL: The thing I heard most often, and it\u2019s what I really wanted to hear, it wasn\u2019t long enough, and it meant we left them wanting more.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Just like your stories.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>JL: It was actually just right in length. If they felt like they wanted more, that\u2019s just great. It could have gone on for a half hour more, and they could have felt like they wanted less.<\/p>\n<p><strong>They can just go to Texas and do the tour.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>JL: Right. [laughs]<\/p>\n<p><strong>Joe, I think you touched on this earlier, but how did you feel hearing this outpouring of admiration from your peers and your co-conspirators like Christopher Golden, Joe Hill, Mick Garris, Bruce Campbell\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15709\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/inteview-joe-lansdale-hansi-oppenheimer\/popcornking_campbell\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_campbell.jpg?fit=1280%2C720&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1280,720\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1590039720&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"popcornking_campbell\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_campbell.jpg?fit=853%2C480&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-15709\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_campbell.jpg?resize=853%2C480&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"illustration of Bruce Campbell\" width=\"853\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_campbell.jpg?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_campbell.jpg?resize=350%2C197&amp;ssl=1 350w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_campbell.jpg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_campbell.jpg?resize=1200%2C675&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_campbell.jpg?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 1362px) 62vw, 840px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>JL: It made me feel pretty humble. I\u2019m not sure I deserve all those things, but to think people think I deserve them feels kinda nice. It\u2019s more than kinda nice, it\u2019s exceptionally nice. It\u2019s interesting, over the years, I\u2019ve gotten things from so many people saying, \u201cHey, I wouldn\u2019t have been a writer had it not been for you.\u201d That means bestsellers; that means people that aren\u2019t bestsellers; that means filmmakers; comic book writers, primarily because of <em>Jonah Hex<\/em>; people that wanted to work in animation because they watched <em>Batman: The Animated Series<\/em> and remember my episodes. That all makes it good.<\/p>\n<p>HO: We filled up every screening. We four-walled it when I was working on it. We were also invited to George RR Martin\u2019s theater in Sante Fe to screen it as part of a Lansdale event, which his family participated in. Kasey did a performance.<\/p>\n<p>JL: Lansdalepalooza!<\/p>\n<p>HO: Lansdalepalooza!<\/p>\n<p>JL: That\u2019s what George and them called it, it was Lansdalepalooza. It was fun. They had a number of different things. Kasey sang and Jonathan [Levit] did magic. I\u2019ve been out there several times for several events. Then Hansi and George and I did an on-stage question and answer thing, where George asked questions about stuff. George, I\u2019ve known him for a long time, he\u2019s a really good guy. I really respect George Martin, he\u2019s the top of the game.<\/p>\n<p>HO: I like that he supports other artists. I really like the theater in Santa Fe. He definitely is a supporter of the community, which is really important, especially when you make it.<\/p>\n<p>JL: Right.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hansi, I really enjoy that you incorporated some of Kasey Lansdale\u2019s music in the film, which I feel complements it really well, gives it a really cool country edge. Was she your first choice to fill the majority of the soundtrack?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>HO: I think it was just a natural decision while we were making the film. Pulling audio, we were like, let\u2019s reach out to Kasey and see if she\u2019s okay with us using some of her work. Cause Landsdales travel in a pack. But I\u2019m glad we did. The only criticism of the movie from Karen was that her daughter\u2019s music was too low.<\/p>\n<p>JL: You know what\u2019s interesting about that, that was some of Kasey\u2019s really old music. That was some of the stuff she did when she was nineteen, eighteen, whatever it was. I think that was kind of fitting too because it sorta showed her evolution, or her beginnings before her evolution. Something of an evolution of her as an artist, as a singer, as a songwriter.<\/p>\n<p><strong>It fit the spirit of the film; I thought it was a nice choice.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>JL: Yes.<\/p>\n<p><strong><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15710\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/inteview-joe-lansdale-hansi-oppenheimer\/popcornking_drivein\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_drivein.jpg?fit=1081%2C1600&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1081,1600\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"popcornking_drivein\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_drivein.jpg?fit=692%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-15710\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_drivein.jpg?resize=236%2C350&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"cover of The Drive-In by Joe Lansdale\" width=\"236\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_drivein.jpg?resize=236%2C350&amp;ssl=1 236w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_drivein.jpg?resize=692%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 692w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_drivein.jpg?resize=768%2C1137&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_drivein.jpg?resize=1038%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1038w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/popcornking_drivein.jpg?w=1081&amp;ssl=1 1081w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 236px) 85vw, 236px\" \/>A lot of Cemetery Dance readers are familiar with the demagogue Popcorn King and his fanatical followers from <em>The Drive-In<\/em>, but I would love to hear a just little bit more about this mythical popcorn that Karen used to make for you that gave you these hallucinations in your nightmares. Also, who decided that was the title, <em>All Hail the Popcorn King<\/em>? That\u2019s the perfect title.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>HO: Oh, thank you.<\/p>\n<p>JL: That\u2019s Hansi, she did that. I thought it was cute. I liked it. It was clever. As far as the popcorn goes, my wife used to make this popcorn &#8212; big giant grocery sacks full of it, because we had friends over to watch. We used to have Trash Theater, is what it was called, and we watched really bad movies, or movies that were, if not bad, they were low-budget, but they had a lot of energy and a lot of heart &#8212; like <em>Basket Case<\/em> and <em>Street Trash<\/em> and stuff like that. We would watch those and eat that popcorn, and the idea was eat a lot of popcorn because when I would go to bed at night, really, I would wake &#8212; it was sort of like punishment in a way because I\u2019d wake up kinda sick to my stomach, and then once I got back to sleep, I would dream crazy. Then I would get up in the morning, and I would write that dream. They were all short dreams, and it would either inspire, or it would sometimes be very literal. I sold every one of them. All of a sudden, I was just on this roll.<\/p>\n<p><strong>It seems to me that many writers or filmmakers don\u2019t really enjoy the process of creation. Like you\u2019ve said in the past, Joe, &#8220;Some writers want to have written, but they don\u2019t like to write.&#8221; It seems strange that [they\u2019re] not enjoying that process.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>JL: Right. I agree with you. I don\u2019t get that. People are people, and everyone\u2019s got their own feelings about things. The first time I heard that, I thought, &#8220;What?&#8221; This is what I always wanted and I got it. I\u2019m the dog that caught the car.<\/p>\n<p>HO: Yeah, that\u2019s the dream, to be able to support yourself on your work. I don\u2019t think that\u2019s an unreasonable request for artists. I don\u2019t like the hierarchy.<\/p>\n<p><strong>There are a certain number of obstacles that filmmakers do experience, but it seems like for you, Hansi, that\u2019s not a roadblock.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>JL: It\u2019s different because in film, you have to depend on so many other people. That\u2019s the thing in Hansi\u2019s case; certainly she has to get the money, but mainly it\u2019s a one-woman show. She\u2019s making it happen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Everyone who had a hand in crafting it made it such a moving piece of art. Maybe someone who approached it from the outside, not as a fan, it would have felt like a dry, matter-of-fact &#8212; Joe sitting on a chair, talking head. It was really refreshing. It had energy, and I just felt like I was there with Joe, sitting in the car with him, driving down the street. I feel like the questions Hansi asked were the questions I would have asked as a fan. I think it\u2019s a nice gift to the fans.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>JL: Well, the film taps into my personality, but the film has her personality.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Exactly. It has a style.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>JL: You want that. I mean that as a compliment. It very much feels like Hansi. If you know Hansi, it feels like Hansi. If you don\u2019t know her, well, you\u2019re introduced to her by this film. Even though you\u2019re introduced to me too, and I\u2019m supposedly the main focus, and that\u2019s great, but I think that the methodology of it is very much Hansi, and that comes across.<\/p>\n<p><strong>This might seem like a weird question, Joe, but are there any plans for a Joe R. Lansdale museum in Nacogdoches? How would you feel about something like that?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>JL: I just thought of something. I laughed, then I thought there\u2019s a museum in Gladewater, Texas [which is where I\u2019m from], and they have a section. So, I have a section. It\u2019s not as big as Elvis Presley, who used to play in Gladewater, but it\u2019s a nice little section. I\u2019m gonna have to complain about that [laughs].<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hansi, I know you mentioned a few events, but where would you ultimately like to take this? What\u2019s next for the documentary?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>HO: Well, the DVDs are half sold out. I had promised some to folks. I made 300, we sold 150. I still have half. I\u2019m just kind of waiting and seeing what kind of interest we get. I\u2019ve gotten some offers, and they weren\u2019t good for me creatively. I didn\u2019t want to give up creative control. So it\u2019s going to take a while to find a place, but we will. Even if I have to get there myself.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Any upcoming projects both of you would like to mention?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"15682\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/review-moon-lake-joe-lansdale\/moonlake\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/moonlake.jpg?fit=331%2C499&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"331,499\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"moonlake\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/moonlake.jpg?fit=331%2C499&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-15682\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/moonlake.jpg?resize=232%2C350&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"cover of Moon Lake by Joe R. Lansdale\" width=\"232\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/moonlake.jpg?resize=232%2C350&amp;ssl=1 232w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/06\/moonlake.jpg?w=331&amp;ssl=1 331w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 232px) 85vw, 232px\" \/>JL: I\u2019m gonna mention <em>Moon Lake<\/em>, which comes out this month. (<em>EDITOR&#8217;S NOTE: See the Cemetery Dance review of\u00a0<\/em>Moon Lake <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/review-moon-lake-joe-lansdale\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">right here<\/a>.)<\/em> That\u2019s my newest novel (on Mulholland Books). I\u2019m excited about it. I know the publishers are excited about it. I\u2019m currently writing my new one, <em>The Donut Legion<\/em>, which I\u2019m about two-thirds through.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I\u2019m intrigued by that title.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>HO: Yeah, I bought my copy of <em>Moon Lake<\/em>, the pre-order. I\u2019ll have to bring books back to Nacogdoches.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hansi, is <em>All Hail the Popcorn King<\/em> gonna be your focus for a while, or do you have some other documentary projects you\u2019re pre-producing?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>HO: I have lots of projects I\u2019m working on. Like Joe, I work on it a couple of hours a day doing something related. I was going to start working on a Splatterpunk doc with John Skipp, but I really need to be in-person to shoot that. That\u2019s kind of on the back-burner. We don\u2019t know what will happen with that. It\u2019s just me and my camera; I can shoot anything; I\u2019m never at a loss for ideas.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Chris Hallock is a writer and film programmer in the Pacific Northwest. He currently serves on the programming team for the Boston Underground Film Festival. He has written for <\/strong><\/em><strong>Rue Morgue<\/strong><em><strong>, <\/strong><\/em><strong>VideoScope<\/strong><em><strong>, <\/strong><\/em><strong>Diabolique<\/strong><em><strong>, the <\/strong><\/em><strong>Boston Globe<\/strong><em><strong>, and contributed to the books <\/strong><\/em><strong>Scared Sacred: Idolatry, Religion and Worship in the Horror Film<\/strong><em><strong>, <\/strong><\/em><strong>Yuletide Terror: Christmas Horror on Film &amp; Television<\/strong><em><strong>, and <\/strong><\/em><strong>Kids of the Black Hole: A Punksploitation Anthology<\/strong><em><strong>. He is currently writing a long-overdue biography of prolific character actor Billy Drago called <\/strong><\/em><strong>Hoodlums, Hitmen, and Hillbillies: the Professional Villainy of Billy Drago<\/strong><em><strong>.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>After decades of cranking out high-caliber, genre-smashing literature, and with a badass martial arts pedigree to boot, it\u2019s remarkable that no one tackled a documentary about East Texas\u2019 reigning champion of mojo storytelling, Joe R. Lansdale. Along came intrepid New York City filmmaker Hansi Oppenheimer, a self-described fangrrrl who grabbed her camera and jetted to &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/inteview-joe-lansdale-hansi-oppenheimer\/\" class=\"more-link button bg-gold white\">Continue Reading!<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;All Hail the Popcorn King&#8230;.and Queen! An Interview with Joe R. 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