{"id":18609,"date":"2024-02-09T07:00:41","date_gmt":"2024-02-09T12:00:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/?p=18609"},"modified":"2024-05-28T22:25:04","modified_gmt":"2024-05-29T02:25:04","slug":"what-screams-may-come-tim-waggoner","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/what-screams-may-come-tim-waggoner\/","title":{"rendered":"What Screams May Come: A Conversation with Tim Waggoner"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"18520\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/what-screams-may-come-jason-marc-harris\/whatscreams-column-1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/WhatScreams-column-1.jpg?fit=830%2C120&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"830,120\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"WhatScreams-column (1)\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/WhatScreams-column-1.jpg?fit=830%2C120&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-18520\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/WhatScreams-column-1.jpg?resize=830%2C120&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"banner What Screams May Come by Rick Hipson\" width=\"830\" height=\"120\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/WhatScreams-column-1.jpg?w=830&amp;ssl=1 830w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/WhatScreams-column-1.jpg?resize=350%2C51&amp;ssl=1 350w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/01\/WhatScreams-column-1.jpg?resize=768%2C111&amp;ssl=1 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 709px) 85vw, (max-width: 909px) 67vw, (max-width: 984px) 61vw, (max-width: 1362px) 45vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Atrocity-Engine-Custodians-Cosmos-Book-ebook\/dp\/B0CL9PW1W6\/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1MNWIAVHNH5OF&amp;keywords=the+atrocity+engine&amp;qid=1706189721&amp;s=digital-text&amp;sprefix=the+atrocity+engine%2Cdigital-text%2C79&amp;sr=1-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i>The Atrocity Engine (Custodians of the Cosmos Book 1)\u00a0<\/i>by Tim Waggoner<\/a><br \/>\nAethon Books (April 30, 2024)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><b>The Synopsis:<br \/>\n<\/b><b>Men in Black meets Hellraiser in this rollicking mash-up of urban fantasy and cosmic horror from four-time Bram Stoker Award-winning author Tim Waggoner.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"18611\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/what-screams-may-come-tim-waggoner\/atrocity-engine-cover-revised\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Atrocity-Engine-Cover-Revised.jpg?fit=297%2C466&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"297,466\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Atrocity Engine Cover Revised\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Atrocity-Engine-Cover-Revised.jpg?fit=297%2C466&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-18611\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Atrocity-Engine-Cover-Revised.jpg?resize=297%2C466&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"cover of Atrocity Engine\" width=\"297\" height=\"466\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Atrocity-Engine-Cover-Revised.jpg?w=297&amp;ssl=1 297w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/Atrocity-Engine-Cover-Revised.jpg?resize=223%2C350&amp;ssl=1 223w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 297px) 85vw, 297px\" \/>Creatures from dark dimensions infesting your home? Demonic beings trying to drive you insane? Alien gods attempting to destroy your universe?<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Just call Maintenance.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This underpaid and overworked secret organization is dedicated to battling forces that seek to speed up Entropy and hasten the Omniverse\u2019s inevitable death.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Neal Hudson is a twenty-year veteran of Maintenance. A surveyor who drives through the streets of Ash Creek, Ohio, constantly scanning for the deadly energy known as Corruption. Since the death of his previous partner, Neal prefers to work alone, and he\u2019s not happy when he\u2019s assigned to mentor a rookie.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But they better learn to get along fast.<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Multitude, a group of godlike beings who seek to increase Entropy at every opportunity, are creating an Atrocity Engine. This foul magical device can destroy the Earth, and they don\u2019t care how many innocent lives it takes to build it.\u00a0(Spoiler alert: It\u2019s a lot!)<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Just another day on the job&#8230;<\/span><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><b><strong>(Interview conducted by\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/linktr.ee\/rickhipson\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Rick Hipson<\/a>)<\/strong><\/b><\/p>\n<p><b>CEMETERY DANCE: Congrats on your upcoming novel, Tim. Before we dive into <\/b><b><i>The Atrocity Engine (Custodians of the Cosmos Book 1)<\/i><\/b><b>, I want to ask you about something a little more generalized. It doesn\u2019t take a rocket scientist to ascertain that because &#8220;Book 1&#8221; is placed in the title likely means this is going to be part of a new series for you. I would love to have you walk us through your state of mind from the initial idea to writing the first book of a new series, and to compare it to the mindset of finally putting the pen down after completing the final draft of a last book in a series.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">TIM WAGGONER: In 2016, I wrote a horror\/dark fantasy novel for DarkFuse called <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Eat the Night<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, and the entropy-fighting organization called Maintenance debuted in that story. Over the years, I\u2019ve woven various novels of mine into a shared mythos, and I added Maintenance to the mix, mostly just mentioning them in passing. When the COVID lockdown hit, I had a good deal of extra time on my hands, and I began to wonder if I could use my mythos in an urban fantasy\/adventure novel. The theme of much of my horror fiction \u2013&#8211; including my mythos \u2013&#8211; is that, if the universe is doomed to eventually succumb to entropy, what\u2019s the point of anything? And for individuals, what\u2019s the point of living if we know we\u2019re going to die? How do we find a way to live in the face of this reality? Heavy stuff, and I didn\u2019t know if I could fuse that with the lighter aspects of an adventure story. I wrote about 90 pages of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Atrocity Engine<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, then deadlines for other projects reared their ugly heads, and I turned my attention to them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A couple years went by, and I remembered <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Atrocity Engine<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> partial and decided to send it to my agent to see what she thought of it. She liked it, told me to write an outline for the whole book, then come up with ideas for two follow-ups. She sold the trilogy to Aethon Books, so I had to finish <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Atrocity Engine<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, then get to work on the other two books in the series \u2013&#8211; <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Book of Madness<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Desolation War<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. I turned in the third book to my editor just last week.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Because so much time had passed between starting <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Atrocity Engine<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and resuming work on it, it took me a while to build momentum, but I finally managed to get going on it. The second and third books were even harder to get into. For some reason, whenever I\u2019ve written a series, I find the follow-up novels harder to write. I\u2019m very conscious of trying not to repeat myself, and I try to add new elements to the overall world and further develop the characters.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Desolation War<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> was even harder because it needed to wrap up the overall story \u2013&#8211; and I had to take a break halfway through to write a tie-in novel. I think I did a decent job on <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Desolation War<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, but I\u2019ll have to wait to see what my editor thinks!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Do series in general demand you take a different approach to them compared with a standalone story? I imagine, for example, there might be more notes for continuity purposes\u2026<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Continuity is a huge issue. I had a series bible I consulted constantly and which I added to as I wrote. I don\u2019t outline in massive detail before I write, and I sometimes forgot something I wrote in Book 1<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> \u2013&#8211; such as a main character\u2019s origin story \u2013&#8211; and then write a different version in Book 2. My editor didn\u2019t catch that mistake, but when I went over proofs of Book 2, I did, and I was able to make sure the character\u2019s background was consistent. As I mentioned earlier, I had to show the characters\u2019 growth throughout the novels, and I had to up the ante in each book and make sure the trilogy told a single coherent story while also being able to read as standalones if people wanted. Quite the juggling act!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Okay, time to rev up and steer this conversation into <\/b><b><i>The Atrocity Engine<\/i><\/b><b>. Being a big fan of both the <\/b><b><i>Hellraiser<\/i><\/b><b> and the <\/b><b><i>Men In Black<\/i><\/b><b> series, I\u2019m sure I won\u2019t be alone in raising an eyebrow at your book being considered a mash-up of the two. Was this always your intention or did it just end up that way?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As I said earlier, my intention was to take my dark mythos and fuse it with an urban fantasy\/action adventure. Later, when I was trying to come up with promotional copy for the book, the tagline &#8220;<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hellraiser<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> Meets <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Men in Black&#8221;<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> came to me. I\u2019d written two other urban fantasy series \u2013&#8211; Nekropolis and Shadow Watch \u2013&#8211; and I fused dark elements with humor and adventure in those novels, so it was natural for me to do the same with <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Atrocity Engine<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and its sequels. There\u2019s a touch of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Ghostbusters<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> in it, too. I love the way the Ghostbusters treat their adventures as another damn job to get done, so they can go home and kick back. I wanted to give my Maintenance agents that same kind of attitude. They\u2019re overworked, overstressed, and underpaid.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>With reference to <\/b><b><i>Hellraiser<\/i><\/b><b> and <\/b><b><i>MIB<\/i><\/b><b> in mind, what do you tell readers curious about the ratio of shock, terror and comedy in <\/b><b><i>The Atrocity Engine<\/i><\/b><b>?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">10% shock, 20% terror, 20% Hhumor. The rest of the book is comprised of 30% action and 20% character development (although the humor is usually part of character development, too). Unlike in some of my standalone horror novels, there are no erotic horror elements in the series, so it\u2019s unlike <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Hellraiser<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> on that score!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Of course, let\u2019s not forget about the cosmic horror element of this one either. Personally, I love that this genre of ours invites so many possibilities for blending and mixing other genres and subgenres to bend to the will of whatever dark story needs to be told. Despite all the freedom you get from infusing so many genre layers into the worlds you create with such books as <\/b><b><i>The Atrocity Engine<\/i><\/b><b>, are there any challenges or aspects of pulling it off well that might not be so easily assumed?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Blending all the disparate elements in a way that seems completely natural is a big challenge. Trying to keep the story grounded on one hand while having a large cosmic element is another. Books like these are a balancing act, and I enjoy the challenge of trying to get the balance right each time.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>On top of the movie franchises already mentioned, this one also has a buddy element that we\u2019ve seen to mixed effect in so many films where a grizzled old guard is forced to partner up with a fresh-faced rook who only seems to get in the way. What does this element add to your story, and why does it seem so easy to screw up such a device in storytelling, at least on screen?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There are two main characters in the series. Neal Hudson is a fortysomething veteran who does what he thinks is right, regardless of the possible impact on his career. Gina Sandoval is in her early twenties, and she\u2019s freshly out of training and eager to start her first job as a full-fledged agent. They both have emotional baggage. Neal\u2019s last partner died on a job a couple months ago, and he\u2019s still grieving her loss. Gina\u2019s family are famous as super-agents in Maintenance \u2013&#8211; so she\u2019s got a lot to live up to \u2013&#8211; and they also have a reputation for being more than a bit shady. Plus, her father Amador was Neal\u2019s mentor when he was first starting out. I wanted there to be a thematic undercurrent of family &#8211;\u2013 and family tension \u2013&#8211; in this series. I also wanted to depict a true friendship between a man and a woman without there being the slightest indication of romance between them. I wanted to see how the story developed without relying on that clich\u00e9.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think the buddy element fails when it\u2019s depicted as constant antagonism between the characters that suddenly morphs into grudging respect and then a finely tuned partnership for no reason other than that\u2019s the story structure. It doesn\u2019t come as a natural outgrowth of the characters and their development.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Another major element of <\/b><b><i>The Atrocity Engine<\/i><\/b><b> seems to be one of existential crisis in which the fate of the universe if not all universes is at stake. I imagine it has to be a hard balance between not overshadowing the fun factor with such serious notions while also making sure you handle the existential portion of the story in a way that can be taken as serious as you intend for us to take it, which I\u2019m guessing is a lot.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Yep! But humans often use humor to deal with huge existential issues, so in that way, the combination of the two is a natural fit. Humor is a buffer that makes it easier \u2013&#8211; or maybe I should say more comfortable \u2013&#8211; to deal with the most difficult questions of existence. It\u2019s like looking at an eclipse indirectly so you don\u2019t damage your eyes\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>I\u2019ve heard a lot of readers make similar claims that they won\u2019t start a series until they know the last one has been published because they\u2019ve been burned before with either publishers going belly up or authors who just haven\u2019t gotten around to writing the last book (Cough cough <\/b><b><i>Game of Thrones<\/i><\/b><b> cough cough). Tim, at this stage in your career, do you put any certain measures in place to ensure whatever series you start will indeed be completed and available for readers anticipating the whole package?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I try to make sure that the books could be read as standalones and that they each have a solid ending, even if there\u2019s a hint that there\u2019s more to come in the next book. But having all three novels finished before the first was released was something my publisher wanted to do. They wanted to release the books relatively close together for marketing reasons. It\u2019s the first time I\u2019ve done this, and I\u2019m interested to see how it\u2019ll work.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>This might be a bit of a tougher question for you to answer. After attending a writing workshop at last year\u2019s Scares That Care Author Con 2, and taking in so many golden nuggets you had to share about the art of crafting quality stories that sell, it\u2019s hard to imagine there isn\u2019t much about the craft of writing you don\u2019t know about. You\u2019ve certainly had a prolific and long-running career in teaching and walking the walk to learn the ropes, to say the very least. That said, what do you feel is an aspect of writing you yourself might struggle to perfect and, if anything comes to mind, what does your process of improving this aspect look like?<\/b><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_18612\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-18612\" style=\"width: 233px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"18612\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/what-screams-may-come-tim-waggoner\/waggoner\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/waggoner-scaled.jpg?fit=1707%2C2560&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1707,2560\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;5.3&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;NIKON D5200&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1556823643&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;60&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;3200&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.05&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"waggoner\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Tim Waggoner&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/waggoner-scaled.jpg?fit=683%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-18612\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/waggoner.jpg?resize=233%2C350&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"author Tim Waggoner\" width=\"233\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/waggoner-scaled.jpg?resize=233%2C350&amp;ssl=1 233w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/waggoner-scaled.jpg?resize=683%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 683w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/waggoner-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C1152&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/waggoner-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/waggoner-scaled.jpg?resize=1365%2C2048&amp;ssl=1 1365w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/waggoner-scaled.jpg?resize=1200%2C1800&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.cemeterydance.com\/extras\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/waggoner-scaled.jpg?w=1707&amp;ssl=1 1707w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 233px) 85vw, 233px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-18612\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Tim Waggoner<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I always struggle between writing something that pleases me artistically vs. writing something that\u2019s marketable. I\u2019ve worked hard over the years to develop my own kind of weird, surreal horror fiction, but that kind of fiction will always have a small(ish) audience. Sometimes I consider trying to write something more mainstream, not because I want more readers or more money (although I\u2019ll take as much of both as I can get), but because I want to know if I could do it. So I swing back and forth between the two extremes, and I work on different ideas, write up various proposals, but I usually end up coming down on the artistic side of things in the end, so I guess that\u2019s what I really want to do most.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>To kind of piggyback off that last question, are there any additional ways you\u2019re hoping to push yourself creatively such as telling stories within a different sub-genre, style, environment or otherwise you\u2019re looking forward to focusing on? Or maybe you don\u2019t even think in those terms?\u00a0\u00a0<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I try different things all the time. Right now, I\u2019m in the early stages of working on developing a horror videogame, and my last book on writing horror, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Let Me Tell You a Story<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, was a hybrid of how-to-write, a story collection, and memoir.\u00a0 Over the last couple years, I\u2019ve written several on-spec projects \u2013&#8211; a psychological thriller called <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Pretty Like Butterflies<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, a middle-grade horror novel called<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> I Scream, You Scream, <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">and an extreme horror novella called <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Suicide Plague<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. (With the latter, I wanted to see if I could write extreme horror that\u2019s ultimately uplifting.) My agent is still shopping these projects around, and hopefully they\u2019ll find a home soon. Last year I wrote twenty thousand words of notes for a fantasy novel, and this afternoon, I played around with the idea of turning those ideas into a science fiction setting. I\u2019ve toyed with the idea of writing a memoir about my life in horror, too. Maybe I\u2019ll get around to it one of these days.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Aiming the spotlight back on <\/b><b><i>The Atrocity Engine<\/i><\/b><b>, does anything jump out at you about the way this particular story came together that you\u2019re most proud of?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I think using my mythos for a lighter type of story worked better than I thought it would. <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Atrocity Engine <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">and its sequels take place in the same world as many of my darker horror novels \u2013&#8211; they even share some characters \u2013&#8211; but they\u2019re so different in terms of style and tone that I don\u2019t want them to cross over <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">too<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> much. What\u2019s weird is that my next Flame Tree Press novel<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, Lord of the Feast<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, comes out two weeks before <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Atrocity Engine<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">. (This is what happens sometimes when you write for different publishers.) <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Lord of the Feast<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> uses the same mythos as <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Atrocity Engine<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, but they\u2019re like different sides of the same coin, one lighter, one darker. It\u2019ll be interesting to see what people who read both think of the contrast.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>I recall you mentioning \u2013&#8211; and please correct if I\u2019m off in any way \u2013&#8211; that in order to know you\u2019ve got the makings of a novel to write out, you need at least two or three subplots to start with. I imagine you can\u2019t just put any \u2018ol subplots together and expect them to work. What can you tell us about the subplots of <\/b><b><i>The Atrocity Engine<\/i><\/b><b> and why you knew they would work so well, blended together in this story?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019m never sure that<\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> anything <\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I do in a novel will work! A lot of it I do by instinct. In <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Atrocity Engine<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, the main antagonist is Rachel Blackburn. She\u2019s undergoing her \u201cfinal exam\u201d to join the Multitude, a cadre of powerful dark entities that want to speed up the end of existence. So there are personal stakes in her efforts to construct and activate an Atrocity Engine. Neal\u2019s loss of his previous partner not only makes it hard for him to accept a new one (one who could conceivably also die in the line of duty) but it\u2019s also a real way for him to confront death\/entropy. Gina\u2019s issues with her famous \u2013&#8211; and possibly criminal \u2013&#8211; family make it harder for her to establish her own professional identity. And her father being Neal\u2019s mentor makes Neal and Gina\u2019s new working relationship more awkward for them both. I find the more I can connect various characters to each other and give them personal connections to aspects of the main plot, the more effective my subplots are.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>After kicking open the gates of 2024 with this novel, what else are you most excited about for the remainder of the year, and how can we best follow along?<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">My new story collection, <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Old Monsters Never Die<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, should be out from Winding Road Stories this year. My novelization of <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Terrifier 2<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> should be out in 2024 as well. I had a blast writing that book, and I can\u2019t wait for people to read it!<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>The best place to keep up with all things TW-related is my website: <\/b><a href=\"http:\/\/www.timwaggoner.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><b>www.timwaggoner.com<\/b><\/a><b>. It has links to my blog, my YouTube channel, and my social media.<\/b><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Atrocity Engine (Custodians of the Cosmos Book 1)\u00a0by Tim Waggoner Aethon Books (April 30, 2024) The Synopsis: Men in Black meets Hellraiser in this rollicking mash-up of urban fantasy and cosmic horror from four-time Bram Stoker Award-winning author Tim Waggoner. Creatures from dark dimensions infesting your home? 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